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Suffering and cessation of it




Hi all my friend
May all u have a good day i want to ask all of u who is can answer me please your hand when i had to study about the four noble truths and so on in buddhism i dont understand about the ultimate truth so when i saw this abhidhamma online i want to ask about my doubt when i learn in the book of dramma it shows only two things
1 suffering
2 the cessation of suffering
but when i heard from some teacher he says that the fourfold noble truth but when the buddha says that only suffering and cessation of suffering why like that i dont know who is wrong and right if someone who can answer me please only in English
thank a lot for your kind
keaw kaling

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  สลักธรรม 1

THE FOUR NOBLE TRUTHS

We can experience these truths, which lie at the heart of the Buddha's teachings, through direct experience. They can be viewed as
(1) Diagnosis of an illness;
(2) Prognosis;
(3) Recovery; and
(4) Medicine to cure the disease.

The first 2 truths deal with the way things are; the last 2 point the way to freedom from suffering.

1. The Noble Truth of Suffering
Besides "suffering," other translations of the Pali word dukkha include unsatisfactoriness, dis-ease, and instability. All these words point to the fact that no conditioned phenomenon can provide true (lasting) happiness in our lives. The first step in a spiritual life is to
look very closely and honestly at our experience of life and see that there is suffering. We tend to overlook or ignore or just blindly react to the unpleasant, so it continually haunts us. Yet although physical suffering is a natural aspect of our lives, we can learn to transcend mental suffering.

2. The Noble Truth of the Cause of Suffering
Through a lack of understanding of how things truely exist, we create and recreate an independent self entity called "me."
The whole of our experience in life can be viewed through this sense of self. In consequence, various cravings govern our actions. Cravings arise for sense experiences, for "being" or "becoming" (e.g. rich, famous, loved, respected, immortal), and to avoid the unpleasant. These cravings are the root cause of suffering.

3. The Noble Truth of the Cessation of Suffering
The mind can be purified of all the mental defilements that cause suffering. Nibbana, the ultimate peace, has been compared to the extinction of a three-fold fire of lust, ill-will, and delusion. One who has realised cessation has great purity of heart, ocean-like compassion, and penetrating wisdom.

4. The Noble Truth of the Way to the Cessation of Suffering
The Way leading to cessation contains a thorough and profound training of body, speech, and mind. Traditionally it's outlined as the Noble Eightfold Path:
(1) Right Understanding;
(2) Right Intention;
(3) Right Speech;
(4) Right Action;
(5) Right Livelihood;
(6) Right Effort;
(7) Right Mindfulness; and
( Right Concentration.

On the level of morality (sila), the Path entails restraint and care in speech, action, and livelihood. The concentration (samadhi) level requires constant effort to abandon the unwholesome and develop the wholesome, to increase mindfulness and clear comprehension of the mind-body process, and to develop mental calm and stability. The wisdom (panna) level entails the abandonment of thoughts of sensuality, ill will, and cruelty; ultimately it penetrates the true nature of phenomena to see impermanence, unsatisfactoriness, and impersonality. When all 8 factors of the Path come together in harmony to the point of maturity, suffering is transcended. In summary, the Four Noble Truths can be thought of as that which is to be
(1) comprehended, (2) abandoned, (3) realized, and (4) developed.

Source :
http://www.dhammathai.org/e/dhamma/nobletruth/nobletruth.php

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  สลักธรรม 2

1.4 THE FOUR NOBLE TRUTHS (ARIYA SACCA)

In the preceding Section (1.3), we saw that the goal of the thirty-seven Enlightenment Qualities was the Four Noble Truths
(Figure 1-1). The Noble Truths consist of:
1) Dukkha Sacca (The truth of suffering. The five Khandas, or rupa and nama, are suffering.)
2) Samudaya Sacca (The cause of the arising of dukkha = tanha or craving.)
3) Nirodha Sacca (Cessation of defilements = nibbana)
4) Magga Sacca (Eight-Fold Path)

1.4.1 Characteristics of the Four Noble Truths
1) Dukkha-Sacca: Characterized by restlessness, inability to stay the same. Both body and mind are restless. Body is restless from dukkha-vedana, and mind ever seeks to find a new object of pleasure – to be happy, when they are in fact just curing suffering. The o¬ne who ends suffering doesn’t seek constantly and compulsively for different objects of pleasure but has peace and contentment.
2) Samudaya-Sacca: The cause of this restlessness and pleasure-seek-ing is Samudaya (the three tanha). Rupa and nama never stop working; seeing, hearing, touching, smelling, investigating, determaining, etc.
3) Nirodha-Sacca: Characterized by freedom from restlessness, be-cause it is free of tanha; has the peacefulness of nibbana.
4) Magga-Sacca: Characterized by having the proper qualities neces-sary to realize the Four Noble Truths and reach nibbana.

1.4.2 Applying the Noble Truths
1) Realizing suffering (suffering is the Five Khandas:rupa and nama). This is not ordinary suffering (aches and pains) but inherent suffering (dukkha-sacca).
2) Samudaya is the cause of suffering.
3) Nirodha (suffering is extinguished: cessation)
4) Following the Eight-Fold Path leads to realizing the Four Noble Truths.

1.4.3 How this Practice Fits the Four Noble Truths
1) It shows the truth of suffering:And so we practice to realize suffer-ing. Suffering is rupa and nama.
2) It shows defilements lead to suffering: So we practice to eradicate tanha. The more we realize suffering the more craving (tanha) is eradicated – because tanha has the wrong view that rupa and nama are “we”, and that “we” suffer.
3) Reducing defilement leads toward cessation (nirodha) because the more craving is eradicated, the closer you get to nirodha, or nibbana.
4) The more we reach cessation, the more the 8-Fold Path is deve-loped.
If panna realizes dukkha sacca, then all Four Noble Truths are real-ized, and the practice is perfect.

1.4.4 Dukkha-Sacca
We (nama-rupa) are suffering in this existence all the time. This is dukkha-sacca and cannot be remedided. (Only dukkha-vedana and sankhara-dukkha can be remedied). Rupa and nama are always suffering in every position, all the time.

For more information :
THE FOUR NOBLE TRUTHS

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  สลักธรรม 3

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENT
THE FOUR NOBLE TRUTHS

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